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| +**Q: Where can I get help with pexpect?  Is there a mailing list?** | 
| + | 
| +A: You can use the `pexpect tag on Stackoverflow <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/pexpect>`__ | 
| +to ask questions specifically related to Pexpect. For more general Python | 
| +support, there's the python-list_ mailing list, and the `#python`_ | 
| +IRC channel.  Please refrain from using github for general | 
| +python or systems scripting support. | 
| + | 
| +.. _python-list: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list | 
| +.. _#python: https://www.python.org/community/irc/ | 
| + | 
| +**Q: Why don't shell pipe and redirect (| and >) work when I spawn a command?** | 
| + | 
| +A: Remember that Pexpect does NOT interpret shell meta characters such as | 
| +redirect, pipe, or wild cards (``>``, ``|``, or ``*``). That's done by a shell not | 
| +the command you are spawning. This is a common mistake. If you want to run a | 
| +command and pipe it through another command then you must also start a shell. | 
| +For example:: | 
| + | 
| +    child = pexpect.spawn('/bin/bash -c "ls -l | grep LOG > log_list.txt"') | 
| +    child.expect(pexpect.EOF) | 
| + | 
| +The second form of spawn (where you pass a list of arguments) is useful in | 
| +situations where you wish to spawn a command and pass it its own argument list. | 
| +This can make syntax more clear. For example, the following is equivalent to the | 
| +previous example:: | 
| + | 
| +    shell_cmd = 'ls -l | grep LOG > log_list.txt' | 
| +    child = pexpect.spawn('/bin/bash', ['-c', shell_cmd]) | 
| +    child.expect(pexpect.EOF) | 
| + | 
| +**Q: The `before` and `after` properties sound weird.** | 
| + | 
| +A: This is how the -B and -A options in grep works, so that made it | 
| +easier for me to remember. Whatever makes my life easier is what's best. | 
| +Originally I was going to model Pexpect after Expect, but then I found | 
| +that I didn't actually like the way Expect did some things. It was more | 
| +confusing. The `after` property can be a little confusing at first, | 
| +because it will actually include the matched string. The `after` means | 
| +after the point of match, not after the matched string. | 
| + | 
| +**Q: Why not just use Expect?** | 
| + | 
| +A: I love it. It's great. I has bailed me out of some real jams, but I | 
| +wanted something that would do 90% of what I need from Expect; be 10% of | 
| +the size; and allow me to write my code in Python instead of TCL. | 
| +Pexpect is not nearly as big as Expect, but Pexpect does everything I | 
| +have ever used Expect for. | 
| + | 
| +.. _whynotpipe: | 
| + | 
| +**Q: Why not just use a pipe (popen())?** | 
| + | 
| +A: A pipe works fine for getting the output to non-interactive programs. | 
| +If you just want to get the output from ls, uname, or ping then this | 
| +works. Pipes do not work very well for interactive programs and pipes | 
| +will almost certainly fail for most applications that ask for passwords | 
| +such as telnet, ftp, or ssh. | 
| + | 
| +There are two reasons for this. | 
| + | 
| +* First an application may bypass stdout and print directly to its | 
| +  controlling TTY. Something like SSH will do this when it asks you for | 
| +  a password. This is why you cannot redirect the password prompt because | 
| +  it does not go through stdout or stderr. | 
| + | 
| +* The second reason is because most applications are built using the C | 
| +  Standard IO Library (anything that uses ``#include <stdio.h>``). One | 
| +  of the features of the stdio library is that it buffers all input and | 
| +  output. Normally output is line buffered when a program is printing to | 
| +  a TTY (your terminal screen). Everytime the program prints a line-feed | 
| +  the currently buffered data will get printed to your screen. The | 
| +  problem comes when you connect a pipe. The stdio library is smart and | 
| +  can tell that it is printing to a pipe instead of a TTY. In that case | 
| +  it switches from line buffer mode to block buffered. In this mode the | 
| +  currently buffered data is flushed when the buffer is full. This | 
| +  causes most interactive programs to deadlock. Block buffering is more | 
| +  efficient when writing to disks and pipes. Take the situation where a | 
| +  program prints a message ``"Enter your user name:\n"`` and then waits | 
| +  for you type type something. In block buffered mode, the stdio library | 
| +  will not put the message into the pipe even though a linefeed is | 
| +  printed. The result is that you never receive the message, yet the | 
| +  child application will sit and wait for you to type a response. Don't | 
| +  confuse the stdio lib's buffer with the pipe's buffer. The pipe buffer | 
| +  is another area that can cause problems. You could flush the input | 
| +  side of a pipe, whereas you have no control over the stdio library buffer. | 
| + | 
| +More information: the Standard IO library has three states for a | 
| +``FILE *``. These are: _IOFBF for block buffered; _IOLBF for line buffered; | 
| +and _IONBF for unbuffered. The STDIO lib will use block buffering when | 
| +talking to a block file descriptor such as a pipe. This is usually not | 
| +helpful for interactive programs. Short of recompiling your program to | 
| +include fflush() everywhere or recompiling a custom stdio library there | 
| +is not much a controlling application can do about this if talking over | 
| +a pipe. | 
| + | 
| +The program may have put data in its output that remains unflushed | 
| +because the output buffer is not full; then the program will go and | 
| +deadlock while waiting for input -- because you never send it any | 
| +because you are still waiting for its output (still stuck in the STDIO's | 
| +output buffer). | 
| + | 
| +The answer is to use a pseudo-tty. A TTY device will force line | 
| +buffering (as opposed to block buffering). Line buffering means that you | 
| +will get each line when the child program sends a line feed. This | 
| +corresponds to the way most interactive programs operate -- send a line | 
| +of output then wait for a line of input. | 
| + | 
| +I put "answer" in quotes because it's ugly solution and because there is | 
| +no POSIX standard for pseudo-TTY devices (even though they have a TTY | 
| +standard...). What would make more sense to me would be to have some way | 
| +to set a mode on a file descriptor so that it will tell the STDIO to be | 
| +line-buffered. I have investigated, and I don't think there is a way to | 
| +set the buffered state of a child process. The STDIO Library does not | 
| +maintain any external state in the kernel or whatnot, so I don't think | 
| +there is any way for you to alter it. I'm not quite sure how this | 
| +line-buffered/block-buffered state change happens internally in the | 
| +STDIO library. I think the STDIO lib looks at the file descriptor and | 
| +decides to change behavior based on whether it's a TTY or a block file | 
| +(see isatty()). | 
| + | 
| +I hope that this qualifies as helpful. Don't use a pipe to control | 
| +another application. | 
| + | 
| +**Q: Can I do screen scraping with this thing?** | 
| + | 
| +A: That depends. If your application just does line-oriented output then | 
| +this is easy. If a program emits many terminal sequences, from video | 
| +attributes to screen addressing, such as programs using curses, then | 
| +it may become very difficult to ascertain what text is displayed on a screen. | 
| + | 
| +We suggest using the `pyte <https://github.com/selectel/pyte>`_ library to | 
| +screen-scrape.  The module :mod:`pexpect.ANSI` released with previous versions | 
| +of pexpect is now marked deprecated and may be removed in the future. | 
| + | 
| +**Q: I get strange behavior with pexect and gevent** | 
| + | 
| +A: Pexpect uses fork(2), exec(2), select(2), waitpid(2), and implements its | 
| +own selector in expect family of calls. pexpect has been known to misbehave | 
| +when paired with gevent.  A solution might be to isolate your pexpect | 
| +dependent code from any frameworks that manipulate event selection behavior | 
| +by running it in an another process entirely. | 
|  |