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| +**Q: Where can I get help with pexpect? Is there a mailing list?**
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| +A: You can use the `pexpect tag on Stackoverflow <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/pexpect>`__
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| +to ask questions specifically related to Pexpect. For more general Python
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| +support, there's the python-list_ mailing list, and the `#python`_
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| +IRC channel. Please refrain from using github for general
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| +python or systems scripting support.
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| +.. _python-list: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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| +.. _#python: https://www.python.org/community/irc/
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| +
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| +**Q: Why don't shell pipe and redirect (| and >) work when I spawn a command?**
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| +A: Remember that Pexpect does NOT interpret shell meta characters such as
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| +redirect, pipe, or wild cards (``>``, ``|``, or ``*``). That's done by a shell not
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| +the command you are spawning. This is a common mistake. If you want to run a
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| +command and pipe it through another command then you must also start a shell.
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| +For example::
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| + child = pexpect.spawn('/bin/bash -c "ls -l | grep LOG > log_list.txt"')
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| + child.expect(pexpect.EOF)
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| +The second form of spawn (where you pass a list of arguments) is useful in
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| +situations where you wish to spawn a command and pass it its own argument list.
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| +This can make syntax more clear. For example, the following is equivalent to the
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| +previous example::
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| + shell_cmd = 'ls -l | grep LOG > log_list.txt'
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| + child = pexpect.spawn('/bin/bash', ['-c', shell_cmd])
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| + child.expect(pexpect.EOF)
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| +
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| +**Q: The `before` and `after` properties sound weird.**
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| +A: This is how the -B and -A options in grep works, so that made it
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| +easier for me to remember. Whatever makes my life easier is what's best.
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| +Originally I was going to model Pexpect after Expect, but then I found
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| +that I didn't actually like the way Expect did some things. It was more
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| +confusing. The `after` property can be a little confusing at first,
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| +because it will actually include the matched string. The `after` means
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| +after the point of match, not after the matched string.
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| +
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| +**Q: Why not just use Expect?**
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| +A: I love it. It's great. I has bailed me out of some real jams, but I
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| +wanted something that would do 90% of what I need from Expect; be 10% of
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| +the size; and allow me to write my code in Python instead of TCL.
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| +Pexpect is not nearly as big as Expect, but Pexpect does everything I
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| +have ever used Expect for.
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| +
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| +.. _whynotpipe:
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| +
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| +**Q: Why not just use a pipe (popen())?**
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| +A: A pipe works fine for getting the output to non-interactive programs.
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| +If you just want to get the output from ls, uname, or ping then this
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| +works. Pipes do not work very well for interactive programs and pipes
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| +will almost certainly fail for most applications that ask for passwords
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| +such as telnet, ftp, or ssh.
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| +There are two reasons for this.
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| +* First an application may bypass stdout and print directly to its
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| + controlling TTY. Something like SSH will do this when it asks you for
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| + a password. This is why you cannot redirect the password prompt because
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| + it does not go through stdout or stderr.
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| +* The second reason is because most applications are built using the C
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| + Standard IO Library (anything that uses ``#include <stdio.h>``). One
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| + of the features of the stdio library is that it buffers all input and
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| + output. Normally output is line buffered when a program is printing to
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| + a TTY (your terminal screen). Everytime the program prints a line-feed
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| + the currently buffered data will get printed to your screen. The
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| + problem comes when you connect a pipe. The stdio library is smart and
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| + can tell that it is printing to a pipe instead of a TTY. In that case
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| + it switches from line buffer mode to block buffered. In this mode the
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| + currently buffered data is flushed when the buffer is full. This
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| + causes most interactive programs to deadlock. Block buffering is more
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| + efficient when writing to disks and pipes. Take the situation where a
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| + program prints a message ``"Enter your user name:\n"`` and then waits
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| + for you type type something. In block buffered mode, the stdio library
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| + will not put the message into the pipe even though a linefeed is
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| + printed. The result is that you never receive the message, yet the
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| + child application will sit and wait for you to type a response. Don't
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| + confuse the stdio lib's buffer with the pipe's buffer. The pipe buffer
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| + is another area that can cause problems. You could flush the input
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| + side of a pipe, whereas you have no control over the stdio library buffer.
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| +More information: the Standard IO library has three states for a
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| +``FILE *``. These are: _IOFBF for block buffered; _IOLBF for line buffered;
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| +and _IONBF for unbuffered. The STDIO lib will use block buffering when
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| +talking to a block file descriptor such as a pipe. This is usually not
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| +helpful for interactive programs. Short of recompiling your program to
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| +include fflush() everywhere or recompiling a custom stdio library there
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| +is not much a controlling application can do about this if talking over
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| +a pipe.
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| +The program may have put data in its output that remains unflushed
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| +because the output buffer is not full; then the program will go and
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| +deadlock while waiting for input -- because you never send it any
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| +because you are still waiting for its output (still stuck in the STDIO's
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| +output buffer).
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| +The answer is to use a pseudo-tty. A TTY device will force line
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| +buffering (as opposed to block buffering). Line buffering means that you
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| +will get each line when the child program sends a line feed. This
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| +corresponds to the way most interactive programs operate -- send a line
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| +of output then wait for a line of input.
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| +I put "answer" in quotes because it's ugly solution and because there is
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| +no POSIX standard for pseudo-TTY devices (even though they have a TTY
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| +standard...). What would make more sense to me would be to have some way
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| +to set a mode on a file descriptor so that it will tell the STDIO to be
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| +line-buffered. I have investigated, and I don't think there is a way to
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| +set the buffered state of a child process. The STDIO Library does not
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| +maintain any external state in the kernel or whatnot, so I don't think
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| +there is any way for you to alter it. I'm not quite sure how this
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| +line-buffered/block-buffered state change happens internally in the
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| +STDIO library. I think the STDIO lib looks at the file descriptor and
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| +decides to change behavior based on whether it's a TTY or a block file
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| +(see isatty()).
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| +I hope that this qualifies as helpful. Don't use a pipe to control
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| +another application.
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| +
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| +**Q: Can I do screen scraping with this thing?**
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| +A: That depends. If your application just does line-oriented output then
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| +this is easy. If a program emits many terminal sequences, from video
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| +attributes to screen addressing, such as programs using curses, then
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| +it may become very difficult to ascertain what text is displayed on a screen.
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| +We suggest using the `pyte <https://github.com/selectel/pyte>`_ library to
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| +screen-scrape. The module :mod:`pexpect.ANSI` released with previous versions
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| +of pexpect is now marked deprecated and may be removed in the future.
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| +
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| +**Q: I get strange behavior with pexect and gevent**
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| +A: Pexpect uses fork(2), exec(2), select(2), waitpid(2), and implements its
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| +own selector in expect family of calls. pexpect has been known to misbehave
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| +when paired with gevent. A solution might be to isolate your pexpect
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| +dependent code from any frameworks that manipulate event selection behavior
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| +by running it in an another process entirely.
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