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+**Q: Where can I get help with pexpect? Is there a mailing list?** |
+ |
+A: You can use the `pexpect tag on Stackoverflow <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/pexpect>`__ |
+to ask questions specifically related to Pexpect. For more general Python |
+support, there's the python-list_ mailing list, and the `#python`_ |
+IRC channel. Please refrain from using github for general |
+python or systems scripting support. |
+ |
+.. _python-list: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list |
+.. _#python: https://www.python.org/community/irc/ |
+ |
+**Q: Why don't shell pipe and redirect (| and >) work when I spawn a command?** |
+ |
+A: Remember that Pexpect does NOT interpret shell meta characters such as |
+redirect, pipe, or wild cards (``>``, ``|``, or ``*``). That's done by a shell not |
+the command you are spawning. This is a common mistake. If you want to run a |
+command and pipe it through another command then you must also start a shell. |
+For example:: |
+ |
+ child = pexpect.spawn('/bin/bash -c "ls -l | grep LOG > log_list.txt"') |
+ child.expect(pexpect.EOF) |
+ |
+The second form of spawn (where you pass a list of arguments) is useful in |
+situations where you wish to spawn a command and pass it its own argument list. |
+This can make syntax more clear. For example, the following is equivalent to the |
+previous example:: |
+ |
+ shell_cmd = 'ls -l | grep LOG > log_list.txt' |
+ child = pexpect.spawn('/bin/bash', ['-c', shell_cmd]) |
+ child.expect(pexpect.EOF) |
+ |
+**Q: The `before` and `after` properties sound weird.** |
+ |
+A: This is how the -B and -A options in grep works, so that made it |
+easier for me to remember. Whatever makes my life easier is what's best. |
+Originally I was going to model Pexpect after Expect, but then I found |
+that I didn't actually like the way Expect did some things. It was more |
+confusing. The `after` property can be a little confusing at first, |
+because it will actually include the matched string. The `after` means |
+after the point of match, not after the matched string. |
+ |
+**Q: Why not just use Expect?** |
+ |
+A: I love it. It's great. I has bailed me out of some real jams, but I |
+wanted something that would do 90% of what I need from Expect; be 10% of |
+the size; and allow me to write my code in Python instead of TCL. |
+Pexpect is not nearly as big as Expect, but Pexpect does everything I |
+have ever used Expect for. |
+ |
+.. _whynotpipe: |
+ |
+**Q: Why not just use a pipe (popen())?** |
+ |
+A: A pipe works fine for getting the output to non-interactive programs. |
+If you just want to get the output from ls, uname, or ping then this |
+works. Pipes do not work very well for interactive programs and pipes |
+will almost certainly fail for most applications that ask for passwords |
+such as telnet, ftp, or ssh. |
+ |
+There are two reasons for this. |
+ |
+* First an application may bypass stdout and print directly to its |
+ controlling TTY. Something like SSH will do this when it asks you for |
+ a password. This is why you cannot redirect the password prompt because |
+ it does not go through stdout or stderr. |
+ |
+* The second reason is because most applications are built using the C |
+ Standard IO Library (anything that uses ``#include <stdio.h>``). One |
+ of the features of the stdio library is that it buffers all input and |
+ output. Normally output is line buffered when a program is printing to |
+ a TTY (your terminal screen). Everytime the program prints a line-feed |
+ the currently buffered data will get printed to your screen. The |
+ problem comes when you connect a pipe. The stdio library is smart and |
+ can tell that it is printing to a pipe instead of a TTY. In that case |
+ it switches from line buffer mode to block buffered. In this mode the |
+ currently buffered data is flushed when the buffer is full. This |
+ causes most interactive programs to deadlock. Block buffering is more |
+ efficient when writing to disks and pipes. Take the situation where a |
+ program prints a message ``"Enter your user name:\n"`` and then waits |
+ for you type type something. In block buffered mode, the stdio library |
+ will not put the message into the pipe even though a linefeed is |
+ printed. The result is that you never receive the message, yet the |
+ child application will sit and wait for you to type a response. Don't |
+ confuse the stdio lib's buffer with the pipe's buffer. The pipe buffer |
+ is another area that can cause problems. You could flush the input |
+ side of a pipe, whereas you have no control over the stdio library buffer. |
+ |
+More information: the Standard IO library has three states for a |
+``FILE *``. These are: _IOFBF for block buffered; _IOLBF for line buffered; |
+and _IONBF for unbuffered. The STDIO lib will use block buffering when |
+talking to a block file descriptor such as a pipe. This is usually not |
+helpful for interactive programs. Short of recompiling your program to |
+include fflush() everywhere or recompiling a custom stdio library there |
+is not much a controlling application can do about this if talking over |
+a pipe. |
+ |
+The program may have put data in its output that remains unflushed |
+because the output buffer is not full; then the program will go and |
+deadlock while waiting for input -- because you never send it any |
+because you are still waiting for its output (still stuck in the STDIO's |
+output buffer). |
+ |
+The answer is to use a pseudo-tty. A TTY device will force line |
+buffering (as opposed to block buffering). Line buffering means that you |
+will get each line when the child program sends a line feed. This |
+corresponds to the way most interactive programs operate -- send a line |
+of output then wait for a line of input. |
+ |
+I put "answer" in quotes because it's ugly solution and because there is |
+no POSIX standard for pseudo-TTY devices (even though they have a TTY |
+standard...). What would make more sense to me would be to have some way |
+to set a mode on a file descriptor so that it will tell the STDIO to be |
+line-buffered. I have investigated, and I don't think there is a way to |
+set the buffered state of a child process. The STDIO Library does not |
+maintain any external state in the kernel or whatnot, so I don't think |
+there is any way for you to alter it. I'm not quite sure how this |
+line-buffered/block-buffered state change happens internally in the |
+STDIO library. I think the STDIO lib looks at the file descriptor and |
+decides to change behavior based on whether it's a TTY or a block file |
+(see isatty()). |
+ |
+I hope that this qualifies as helpful. Don't use a pipe to control |
+another application. |
+ |
+**Q: Can I do screen scraping with this thing?** |
+ |
+A: That depends. If your application just does line-oriented output then |
+this is easy. If a program emits many terminal sequences, from video |
+attributes to screen addressing, such as programs using curses, then |
+it may become very difficult to ascertain what text is displayed on a screen. |
+ |
+We suggest using the `pyte <https://github.com/selectel/pyte>`_ library to |
+screen-scrape. The module :mod:`pexpect.ANSI` released with previous versions |
+of pexpect is now marked deprecated and may be removed in the future. |
+ |
+**Q: I get strange behavior with pexect and gevent** |
+ |
+A: Pexpect uses fork(2), exec(2), select(2), waitpid(2), and implements its |
+own selector in expect family of calls. pexpect has been known to misbehave |
+when paired with gevent. A solution might be to isolate your pexpect |
+dependent code from any frameworks that manipulate event selection behavior |
+by running it in an another process entirely. |